The LHC, CERN,the Earth,and me
Posted by: Harshad Joshi on: September 10, 2008
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The LHC or Large Hadron Collider was supposed to fire a huge beam smashing atoms, colliding quarks, and whatnot, that was capable of turning Earth into a black hole @ 1:30 PM IST.
Its 2:08 PM IST, I am observing that I am alive, the people next to me are alive, the computers working properly, there is no power cut, the TV’s on, there has been no earth quake reported, my mobile network is operational, theres traffic on road..people are moving around, they seem perfectly all right ..All these things prove that Earth has been spared from becoming a black hole. I dont now if the scientists @ CERN got what they were finding, but I am pretty sure that the world wont end that easily, especially with me having a lot of desires left to be satisfied 
Theres no प्रलय, heres no Doom’s day, theres no Apocalypse, Judgement Day has been postponed. 
Rejoice Dudes, we have got yet another day to live..make the most out of it, who knows what those crazy scientist might be upto now..However, i cant help thinking. Bing Bang, Universe is great, but we have got so many problems like hunger, poverty, unemployment, racism, corruption, religious controversies, why cant someone try to solve them, I bet they are more challenging then Big Bang..
Hey…to know what CERN’s to, watch this live webcast from this site.All I can see is few people walking here and there..
Update on 10 Sept 9:30 PM IST
This news of earth being turned into a black hole was potrayed so cinematically by some Indian news channels that one 16 year old girl in Indore commited suicide when she saw that the world was going to end soo..The Indian TV media once again proved they are the biggest assholes in some aspects..No maturity, no sense, no originality..Mongrels…Crap heded blistering barnacles..
31 Responses to "The LHC, CERN,the Earth,and me"
September 10, 2008 at 8:31 am
They are only turning it on today. The colliding won’t actually happen for a few weeks yet so why people were getting all worried about today strikes me as being rather amusing.
September 10, 2008 at 8:40 am
There are no collisions planned today, so no chance of creating a black hole right now. Rejoiced to soon
But to be honest: i don’t think anybody has to be afraid of black holes – that’s just…bullshit 
September 10, 2008 at 8:45 am
Hi Harshad,
CERN did indeed switch on the LHC, but only to warm up the machines and do some preliminary tests. They haven’t even began colliding the atoms yet. The first collisions take place in the second week of October this year.
If such a devestating cataclysm were to take place we wouldn’t know until 2012 when it reaches maximum performance and any hypothetical ‘mini black holes’ have had a chance to accrue and form a quasar inside the planet (which would be apocalyptic to say the least).
Having said that, no one can say for certain exactly what will happen once the LHC is colliding beams in ernest. Even CERN themselves admit that they can’t predict exactly what will happen and what chain of events will transpire. That’s a tad worrying. After all, nothing of this scale has ever been tested. Until now anyway.
There is a miniscule and remote chance that in four years, if Dr Otto Rossler and former nuclear physicist Walter Wagner are right, the earth will be experiencing some major negative changes. God forbid that happens.
2012 is a significant year for many reasons, (see the Mayan Long Count Calander and the Grand Allignment). I just hope that the LHC doesn’t make it a tragic hat trick for us.
Personally, I’m optimistic. The chance of tragedy is there. But it’s very small.
November 28, 2009 at 1:14 am
I think you were talking about a film named 2012, man, watch it, nice and cool computer effects. Is this what the future is?? But that film has no mentions of LHC, or did I miss it
September 10, 2008 at 8:55 am
Hello world! – said my PC as I switched it on few minutes ago.
Oh, I see that the world still works!
For sure something went wrong in their LHC experiment…
September 10, 2008 at 8:56 am
Its worth noting that the main collision experiment wont take place till around christmas. It will still not destroy the Earth though.
September 10, 2008 at 9:01 am
I thought all they were doing this time was firing one beam, and the micro-black holes that will swallow the world (not) from colliding two beams aren’t due for a few weeks?
geez … reading around the ‘net, it appears virtually none of the MSM is bothering with that slight (not) difference either …
So have some patience, still some time to plan for doomsday!
September 10, 2008 at 9:21 am
In the telegraph.co.uk news it says that ‘The first collisions are expected in around 30 days.’
So I don’t know if we’re safe already… but I hope so
At least, today we seem to be all right.
September 10, 2008 at 9:27 am
“All I can see is few people walking here and there..”
LOL. It’s when all you can see are the silhouettes of people running here and there (backlit by flames a la “Towering Inferno”), that you should maybe worry…
September 10, 2008 at 10:01 am
Hi, you have written the article quite in funny way. And even then it spills the truth. Nothing has happened as of yet. So we can say “Earth is Safe”.
I agree with you that why people, scientist, politicians run behind the “MRUGAJALA”?? As you rightly said, there are various issues like Hunger, Corruption, Racism, Poverty, Unemployment etc etc. Why can’t India and in turn World look for that. They are definitely challenging than Big Bang. No problem, World should go on exploring Earth, Universe and Environment but after it solves the problem within.
Prasad Kulkarni
September 10, 2008 at 10:49 am
On my rivers of belief
If you understand, or if you dont…
If you believe or you doubt…
There is universal justice…
The eyes of Truth…are always watching you….
If you can read this, hey..you are alive, so am I, so is everyone..We live another day….
We dont know what fate/destiny Karma has planned for us…We must start living a new day we have got. No matter what your faith is, no matter what your religion is…
Remember – The only truth that prevails is your desires. The desires to make your life worthy of living. Share your joy, reduce someones sadeness, change the mantra of living a life, we all will be in a bliss..
Hari Om taatsat…
September 10, 2008 at 1:35 pm
A fair bit of science is using observations to extrapolate towards some sort of conclusion; and I concur with your observation that we are all very much alive.
Hopefully this will continue to be true for a long, long time.
I enjoyed the way you put things
Have a good day
Salv.
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September 16, 2008 at 5:07 pm
There is just no chance at all that CERN destroys the world. See the safety reports in http://www.arxiv.org
2 comments
1) Mini black holes are quantum objects described by quantum gravity. Since we don’t know how to do quantum gravity we cannot calculate any probabilities (for creation, decay etc) except for the case that we use classical theories (general relativity). These give an absolutely negligible probability for a BH to be created. I wish that LHC creates one however. This way we might get a hint on how to construct quantum gravity.
2) If you could stand next to a mini BH you would feel no gravitational force (its field is extremely weak on macroscopic scales).
3) BH do not devour everything that stands in their way. They are black simply because if you cross the event horizon there is no possible way to get out. But in order to fall into a BH you need to have a trajectory that crosses its event horizon. If we replaced the sun with a BH nothing would happen. Well, there would be no light and planets would revolve at faster speeds (those closer to the BH would have complex rosette trajectories).
September 16, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Sorry. Although i am a physicist, i am not so good at elementary mathematics. Those were 3 comments…
September 21, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Wow! Look at all the people interesting in seeing the Dooms Day!!
Much ado about nothing as usual…….. wot a pity….all that money…… 
September 21, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Luv ur blogs…adding to my blog roll…hope u don mind…
January 28, 2009 at 11:10 am
LHC is garbage: Not me oE=mc²/2
2009 is the end of Einstein’s space-jail of time and Fraud symbol E=mc²
Joenahhas1958@yahoo.com
Time is not a structure like space to allow space-to time-back to space jumping claimed by Physicists regardless of what physicists have to say about it because Physics is a business and not necessarily science or scientific and like every business it comes with fraud and fraud is Einstein’s space-time (x, y, z, it) continuum that led to fraud symbol E=mc² and yes I am saying that 109 years of Nobel prize winners physics and physicists are all wrong and space-time physics is based on scientific fraud. When “results” expected and “No” discovery, Physicists rigged Physics for grant money since the start of the industrial revolution. Physics today is at least 51 % fraud!
r ——————>>Exp (ì w t) ———->> S=r Exp (ì wt) Nahhas’ Equation
Orbit——–>> Orbit light sensing——>> Visual Orbit; Exp = Exponential
Particle —->> light sensing of moving objects———— >> Wave
Newton———>>light sensing———->> Quantum
Quantum = Newton x Visual Effects
Quantum – Newton = Relativistic = Optical Illusions
E (Energy by definition) = mv²/2 = mc²/2; if v = c
m = mass; v= speed; c= light speed; w= angular velocity; t= time
S = r Exp (ì w t) = r [cos (wt) + ì sin (wt)] Visual effects
P = visual velocity = change of visual location
P = d S/d t = v Exp (ì w t) + ì w r Exp (ì w t)
= (v + ì w r) Exp (ì w t) = v (1 + ì) Exp (ì w t) = visual speed; v = wr
E (visual energy= what you see in lab) = m p²/2; replace v by p in E = mv²/2
= m p²/2 = m v²/2 (1 + ì) ² Exp (2ì wt)
= mv²/2 (2ì) [cosine (2wt) + ì sine (2wt)]
=ì mv² [1 - 2 sine² (wt) + 2 ì sine (wt) cosine (wt)];v = speed; c = light speed
wt = π/2
E (visual) = ìmv² (1 – 2 + 0)
E (visual) = -ì mc² ≡ mc² (absolute value;-ì = negative complex unit) If v = c
w t = π/4
E (visual) = imv² [1-1 +ỉ] =-mc²; v = c
wt =-π/4+ỉln2/2; 2ỉ wt=-ỉπ/2 – ln2
Exp (2i wt) = Exp [-ỉπ/2] Exp [ln(1/2)]=[-ỉ (1/2)]
E (visual) = imv² (-ỉ/2) =1/2mc² v = c
Conclusion: E = mc² is the visual Illusion of E = mc²/2 joenahhas1958@yahoo.com. All rights reserved.
PS: In case of E=mc² claims to be rest energy claims then
E=1/2m (m v + m’ r) ² = (1/2m) (m’ r) ²; v = 0
E = (1/2m) (mc) ²; m’ r =mc
E=mc²/2
n that
November 28, 2009 at 6:25 am
Einstein would have been proud of your scientific analytic skills, too bad he died decades ago leaving this world at the mercy of evil scientists planning to blow up the earth.. 
November 27, 2009 at 5:20 pm
the lhc at this point in time is a very bad idea, there are far to many unknowns.
when they were testing the fist a-bomb they though it might light
the atmosphere on fire, sure it may have not happened in the end but they had to do it because lives were at stake and they had to end a long drawn out war. failure was not an option!
but there is no justifiable reason why we should chance fate a second time over such a small thing.
at this point in history there are more important things, i feel they should postpone the testing for a decade or so and devote those $$$
bones to some thing better like mining asteroids and or developing practical solutions for space flight.
like idk a space shuttle the common man could afford to buy, maintain and operate.
the simple fact of the matter is that these tests have no real world use/applications at the moment.
more over we already have the scientific/technological capability of achieving such feat’s as space flight with out the lhc.
to conclude my rant i ask what is the lhc going to do for me “the common man”? I’ll tell you, “possibly” kill me and every one else, and a whole lota nothing!
and for what to satisfy the curiosity of some egg head whom does not care about my thoughts
ideals and more over my genius!
fool’s, I’ll bet if it was put to a world wide democratic vote today they would be shut down tomorrow!
the end does not justify the means no manner how you dice it what so ever.
(after all its not like the lhc is going any where;)
November 28, 2009 at 1:09 am
I think Earth Defence Forces have detected an alien attack and hence they have designed a killer machine to prevent defeat in an inter galactic war…wow, we are now going to see star wars for real..
LHC is the havoc machine, a weapon to be used in case of an alien invasion
November 28, 2009 at 4:23 am
i wonder what would happen if the lhc was fired up and then all the sudden the sun let out a giant solar flair?
after all our sun has an solar cycle of about 11 years between its major amounts of solar activity.
i remember back in 1999 and 2000 they were all worried over y2k and also over that nastier solar cycle thing.
which may i add will be at its height on dec 21 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Sunspot-bfly.gif
either way i think the test should be postponed until a time between our suns solar cycle.
sure it would take them 15-20 more years or so to do all the tests they want to do but “safety first” that’s what i always say.
as far as i have read the lhc only has a life expectancy of 10 years, during that time it will be upgraded once.
but for them to do testing in 2009-2011 then stop for 5 years and then resume for 3-4 years, would be way more safer.
November 28, 2009 at 6:20 am
Relax, enjoy life to the fullest till the last day comes. Trust me, the LHC will fail once again because no one knows how to operate it. The scientist are crazy people with lot of time and money to waste.
PS – Get married *now* if you are single. Who knows if LHC disaster may take place, there will be mutations of all kinds..
November 28, 2009 at 7:25 am
idk the main and only problem with the lhc that ppl should be worried about is the unknown side effects if such a device.
no only to us but our solar system in general, it doesn’t take much research on the internet to find out that such things can go terribly wrong.
although the lhc is only a 10 year project, the simple fact of the manner is that if such an device were in operation for say 40 years there is some where between a 40-75% chance of catastrophic failure resulting in alot of the side effect’s that many have dismissed as being false misinformation.
be it mini black holes, strangelets, mono-polar particles, i would have to say they are the least of our worries.
after all are we ready for the information and research that would be generated by the lhc, what are the consequences of this information?
after the discovery of nuclear fission mankind had the ability to fully destroy its self, this in effect caused fear and panic and later led to the cold war, a struggle which led to the economic failure of communism in the ussr resulting in much poverty.
with great power comes great responsibility, that being said what makes these scientists the right people for this task?
what gives them the right to put our lives at stake even if the chances is only like .000000000000000000000000000001% especially when nobody can say for certain what will or wont happen.
i dont wana go on spouting out all this doom’s day jargon and referring to prophecy but even though i dont believe in that crap that does not mean im not going to at least try to avoid such things.
i think that those people responsible for the lhc are being very ignorant of peoples believes customs and ideals, if the lhc were built in canada here it would have been shut down already due to lobbying and petitioning, and more over for being a violation of the Canadian charter of rights and freedom’s (due in part to its timing in accordance with the dec 21 2012 thing).
figure that, if i believed in the mayan religion and customs (ha minus the human sacrifice of course) according to the c c r f they would be violating my rights and i could sue them.
November 28, 2009 at 9:14 am
Dont wory mate, nothings doom gonna happen, and if it does, then it will be for us all.
So, till then, live this day, die on another one..
And according to my knowledge, LHC is locate somewhere in swiss/france borders underground tunnel. What has canada to do with it? :-O
November 28, 2009 at 10:32 am
well first of all i just don’t want some fool machine messing up the earths geomagnetic field or for that manner disrupting the sun or some stupid thing like that.
it may be in France/Switzerland but it is still on earth.
i more or less just dont want them to do testing during the sun’s solar maximum.
http://indigosociety.com/earth-not-risk-lhc-large-hadron-collider-t7791/#post546661
aka 2011 and on to 2015 or so and from 2020 to 2025, if they could not mess around with it then that would just be swell.
idk if it only effected them i wouldn’t care, i would happily go along with it until they killed them selves just so i could say i told you so.
but this thing is so big that if some thing go’s wrong it wont only effect them, our collective asses are on the line.
i think what will happen is a computational error due to emi/emp from a massive solar storm, this in turn will cause catastrophic failure.
November 28, 2009 at 11:00 am
“i think what will happen is a computational error due to emi/emp from a massive solar storm, this in turn will cause catastrophic failure.”
Dont worry mate, I hear EU uses Linux and not MS Windows. So there wont be any calc errors.
But I respect your views.
November 28, 2009 at 11:07 am
it wont be software , it will be a hardware thing.
i’ll bet the entire facility is automated.
every door every window and even down to the very relays and contractors they use to control the sophisticated equipment in the lhc.
at that point it wont manner what operating system they use, in the end it will just be a simple error caused by the very thing that breathes life into our fair planet.
November 28, 2009 at 9:17 am
To be honest, I dont know what to react on LHC, its beyond my control to say ’shut if off’
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September 10, 2008 at 8:12 am
Hey… Engineers and Physicists at CERN had cleared the fact that all rumours regarding creating microscopic black holes are all crap… So, Why take chap?:D enjoy dude…:D